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47 Comments

  • martin stenning

    Reply Reply September 26, 2016

    thanks keiran

  • Anthony Perkins

    Reply Reply September 26, 2016

    Kieran

    I have a few questions:

    1. What is the benefit of using the software over simply joining your service?
    2. Will there still be value if a lot of people start using this software?

    thanks
    AP

  • Anthony Perkins

    Reply Reply September 26, 2016

    I should have read the report first! Question 1 answered.

    AP

    • Anthony Perkins

      Reply Reply September 26, 2016

      Question 2 answered as well!!

      • support

        Reply Reply September 26, 2016

        Hi Anthony

        No worries – easily done!

        best,

        Kieran

  • malcolm pendrey

    Reply Reply September 26, 2016

    to win + 3542 points to 1 point level stakes after 5 years 2 months is staggering! I am looking to subscribe as of now!

  • Bill Winters

    Reply Reply September 26, 2016

    Afternoon all

    Sorry to be such an ignoramus but – in racing parlance only! – what is BOG? Thanks

    Bill

    • support

      Reply Reply September 26, 2016

      Hi Bill.

      Sorry – nothing worse than industry jargon.

      BOG stands for Best Odds Guaranteed – where the bookmaker -pays at whichever is the best odds, the price you took or industry SP. Very useful when you have backed a drifter!

      best,

      Kieran

  • Peter

    Reply Reply September 26, 2016

    A quick calculations comes to about 150 bets a week – I always thought that “VALUE” bets were few and far between.

    • support

      Reply Reply September 26, 2016

      Hi Peter

      That’s the beauty of this particular method. I find anywhere between 10 and 25 bets offering an average of 10% edge every single day.

      best

      Kieran

  • peter

    Reply Reply September 26, 2016

    Hi Kieran,

    I just read your report. Sounds very interesting. I have to say though that since I have an older mac 5-6 years old I have never ever managed to download or install any fairbot or any other bot or any peace of software either to my mac.

    So based on that experience I am not so positive to that working on my computer. But I was wondering is it still possible to sign up and follow the Morning Value Service that you have been running for the last 5,5 years and get todays selections every day or the evening before and then just place the bets as they were done before this new software mad it’s entrance?

    And if so where can I get some more information about sign ups and costs and so on?

    I am definitely interested in signing up with the old version of this membership service. Is there perhaps a website I can log into after paying as a member where I can see all of todays/tomorrows selections?

    Thanks again!

    Best regards

    Peter

  • Wimpie Naude

    Reply Reply September 26, 2016

    Hello Kieran,

    I would like to know, will I be able to use the Value Machine system if I’m staying in South Africa?

    • support

      Reply Reply September 26, 2016

      Hi Wimpie

      As long as you can access the internet, you’ll be able to run the value machine. Whether you will be able to pace the bets in S Africa I’m afraid I’m not sure.

      Best,

      Kieran

  • Iain

    Reply Reply September 26, 2016

    Hi Kieran,

    It all sounds very good, but what would you say the main difference between your software and that say of, BSG (Mr Turner’s) will be. I don’t wish to start a war, or slanging match as I know your record speaks for itself, but would be interested to know how they compare?

    Regards,

    Iain

    • support

      Reply Reply September 26, 2016

      Hi Iain

      Thanks for your comment.

      I’m afraid I don’t know the other software you are referring too – I’ll google it now!

      best,

      Kieran

    • support

      Reply Reply September 26, 2016

      Hi Iain

      Just had a look at BSG. I hadn’t heard of him before. The software I can see of his -I think it’s the one you are talking about – is based on ratings.
      Ratings are an excellent way of analysing a race but it’s not the method The Value Machine is using. That being the case, there will be very little similarity between the 2.
      Hope that helps!

      best,

      Kieran

  • John

    Reply Reply September 26, 2016

    I would like to try this software, maybe the manual will give more insight. But if you could answer the 2 questions that have come to my mind please Kieran, I’d be grateful.
    Does this software give a list of value bets and if so is it up to the user whether they take every one of them or just select 2 from 5 for example?
    Is there a staking plan that should be adhered to?

    • support

      Reply Reply September 26, 2016

      Hi John

      Good questions.

      The Value machine will identify a list of selections at value prices and it will then be entirely up to the user which ones they back. The user can then tick alongside the ones that they back and those ones will be transferred into the bet record section of the software.

      The only staking plan I’ve ever used with these type of value selections is straight level stakes win only. However, I know many members of the Morning Value Service (the service that the Value Machine has developed from) back each way on longer priced selections.

      Hope that helps!

      best,

      Kieran

  • Paul JONES

    Reply Reply September 26, 2016

    Hi Kieran

    Can the software be used with Betfair instead of bookies and is then still as profitable? If so, can bets be placed at any time of day into the exchange? Are the selections still profitable if placed at Betfair SP.

    Good luck with the release (but it sounds as if you wont need it!)

    Paul

    • support

      Reply Reply September 26, 2016

      Hi Paul

      Thanks for getting in touch and for some good questions.

      You can use Betfair with these selections depending upon liquidity at whichever time of day you are doing it. At betfair SP these break even long term after commission is decuted so not really an option. #

      Thanks for the good luck wishes – I’m looking forward to it!

      best,

      Kieran

  • Bryn Lowbridge

    Reply Reply September 26, 2016

    Hi Kieran ,
    Have just read your proof report and I’m excited and more and more interested . I only bet to win and not EW , and have an account with
    Bet365 and Paddy Power . Do I need to open accounts with other book makers.

    Best
    Bryn Lowbridge

    • support

      Reply Reply September 26, 2016

      Hi Bryn

      Thanks for your question.

      I would advise having accounts with as many bookmakers as you can possibly manage – that will both enable you to get best price most of the time and allow you to spread your bets around

      best,

      Kieran

  • Terry Barnes

    Reply Reply September 26, 2016

    Hi Kieron so if I am reading this right , if you produce 25 value bets per day , I would be expected to put ££10 or £20 on each bet? ie£500 per day risk? On the basis if you don’t bet on one that will be the one that wins .

    • support

      Reply Reply September 26, 2016

      Hi Terry

      there are regularly 20 to 30 bets across the morning and evening depending on the settings you use with the software. it is also possible to restrict the software so it only finds bets below a certain price and you will find far less bets that way ( and have a higher win strike rate!). It can be set up to suit your own particular betting style and bank availabe.

      best,

      Kieran

  • Jim Hewitt

    Reply Reply September 26, 2016

    Hi

    is this an automated process if so I take it y7ou put in your bookmakers and fund the accounts and the software does the rest, it seems a lot of bets over the 6 years.

    • support

      Reply Reply September 26, 2016

      Hi Jim

      The software doesn’t place the bets for you – it jsut finds them and tells you where to place them.

      Hope that helps

      Kieran

  • Adrian

    Reply Reply September 26, 2016

    Peter, I believe this software is web-based so you will have nothing to download. You just call it up like any other website.

    Best, Adrian

    • support

      Reply Reply September 26, 2016

      Thanks Adrian – that’s absolutely right

      best,

      Kieran

  • peter

    Reply Reply September 26, 2016

    Hi Kieran,

    How come you answered everybody else questions but mine? What in my comment was not appropriate enough?

    I am so upset that you answered Wimple’s question and Lain’s too before mine that I have a hard time writing this without shaking severely. Not to mention John and Paul too. I can not believe how unfair things can be on this thread.

    I DO APOLOGIZE FOR ANYTHING NEGATIVE I HAVE SAID OR DONE! BECAUSE THAT MUST BE THE REASON WHY YOU JUST IGNORED ME BUT CHOSED TO ANSWER THEM EVEN THOUGH I WAS BEFORE THEM IN THE CUE TO KIERAN’S WEBSITE.

    When do you think you will answer me?

    I also want to apologize to Wimple, Lain, John and Paul for not accepting that they got their questions answered before mine!

    Thanks for creating The Value Machine!

    • support

      Reply Reply September 26, 2016

      Hi Peter

      Very sorry if I have missed your question. The dashboard of the website is slightly difficult to navigate and I don’t seem to have seen it.

      The software is web based so,as long as you can get on the internet and visit a website, you will be able to use the software.

      Regarding your question about The Morning Value Service, I shall email you directly.

      Apologies again for missing your question – really not sure how it happened!

      best,

      Kieran

  • Scott

    Reply Reply September 27, 2016

    Hi Kieran
    It says will get an email etc on Wednesday but where is the actual signup for the mail list ??
    I dont see it anywhere to get on the mail list.
    Thanks
    Scott

    • support

      Reply Reply September 27, 2016

      Hi Scott,

      You can sign up for the mailing list by downloading The New All Weather Favourites system which can be accessed via the link at the top of this page.

      Hope that helps!

      Kieran

  • Chris

    Reply Reply September 27, 2016

    Hi Kieran,

    Very interesting presentation, and I’m looking forward to more info.

    Does your software operate in the same way as Racing Synergy ?

    They utilize a value approach but how the selections are arrived at I don’t know.

    Are you picking value horses with some “secret sauce” you have identified /

    • support

      Reply Reply September 27, 2016

      Hi Chris

      I’m afraid I’m not aware of Racing Synergy so I’m not sure how they find their selections. There are many ways to find value. Mine is just one of them but I think it works well!

      best,

      Kieran

  • Greg

    Reply Reply September 27, 2016

    Hi Kieran,

    What sort of betting bank would you suggest say at £10 level stakes ? As somebody who only has 6 to 10 bets a week, your TVM would be a shock to the system lol.

    Greg

    • support

      Reply Reply September 27, 2016

      Hi Greg – it’s a good question.

      If you were going to be betting at all/any price, I would suggest a betting bank in the region of 250 points to be secure.

      However, if you were to limit your price range to anything between 2/1 and 10/1 for example, I would think that you would need considerably less than that. That would give you an average bet price historically of just over 11/2. That would make your long term strike rate in the region of 20% when you facor in the edge these seelctions have. With a 20% strike rate I would advise a bank of around 150 points to be safe.

      If you were to limit selections to the range even money to 5/1, your strike rate would move up to approx 26% and I would advise a bank of 100-120 points.

      Hope that makes some sense!

      best,

      Kieran

  • Greg

    Reply Reply September 27, 2016

    Hi Kieran

    Thanks for the answers, very helpful

    Greg

  • Steve

    Reply Reply September 27, 2016

    Hi Kieran

    I’ve had a quite a few accounts closed or restricted by following tipsters who issue tips at 9am which then contract in price. I notice from your previous comments that betting at Betfair SP on your current service would only result in breaking even and a quick perusal of your spreadsheet does show quite significant price contractions in many of the winners. I now try to avoid placing bets until about 10.30 unless it is a big meeting with a fully formed betting market. Do you have any idea of the impact on the number of daily bets and overall ROI if I was run to the system at a later time (i.e 10.30) – my guess would be that the volume might be down, but if it is all based on value then hopefully the overall ROI might be maintained.

    Cheers

    Steve

    • support

      Reply Reply September 27, 2016

      Hi Steve

      Funnily enough, the afternoon selections have been sent out to members at 10.30am. So I think it’s fair to say you would get pretty much the same number of bets were you to run this at 10.30am. The evening selections have normally been sent about 45 minutes before the first race of the evening. It would also be perfectly possible for you to run the Value Machine multiple times a day and increase turnover that way.

      Best,

      Kieran

  • Paul

    Reply Reply September 27, 2016

    Hi Kieran,

    I’ve read your PDF and all of the comments here and have a quick question.

    Let’s say I was to run the software at 10.30am and back all of the selections. Then run it again at 1pm when the prices have changed. Would/should I back everything again, including ones that I’d already backed earlier? In effect doubling up on some of those bets?

    Thanks,
    Paul

    • support

      Reply Reply September 27, 2016

      Hi Paul

      Good question.

      We’ve set up a facility in the Value Machine which allows you to add any selection into a section for horses you have already backed. Once you have done that, it won’t show up in subsequent scans.

      However, if you didn’t do that, some selections would likely still be at value prices in the 2nd scan and you might choose to back thenm again if you felt that the price offered even more value. I personally would only back them once as I have a set figure I want to get on each selection and then I forget about it!

      Hope that helps

      Kieran

  • Paul

    Reply Reply September 27, 2016

    Thanks Kieran – yeah, that makes sense!

  • Andrew

    Reply Reply September 27, 2016

    I have been going over the The Morning Value Service spreadsheet and although the results are impressive, I notice that in almost 5 years 2 months there is 34181 bets averaging 18 bets per day or 545 bets per month with an average of 57pts per month. I see that you recommend a 250pt Bankroll. So for someone who bets £10 Level Stakes they would be betting £180 per day on average. The average punter would struggle financially and mentally to be in so deep every day.
    Is there any way to have less selections 34181…

    Andrew

    • support

      Reply Reply September 28, 2016

      Hi Andrew

      Thanks for your comment and apologies for my delayed response – things have been hectic here.

      Those bets have been found betting across all price ranges. it’s very easy to reduce the number of bets to your own comfort level – it’s a single setting in The Value machine that allows you to exclude all secltions above or below a certain price. My suggestions would be to set that at say above Even money and below 8/1. You’d get far less bets that way and at a hugher strike rate. there would however, be less profit in the long run because of the reduced turnover.

      hope that helps

      Kieran

  • Steve

    Reply Reply September 28, 2016

    Thanks for your previous response Kieran. I really like the sound of The Value Machine as it would give me greater control of when I bet and not feeling that I have to follow a tip even if the value has gone.

    One things concerns me (apologies if I don’t understand how it will in practice) and that is that some people when they get their hands on the machine may be wanting to get their bets on as soon as the markets are set when the odds will be very sensitive to small stakes placed. I have subscribed to a couple of services where the tipsters get very annoyed with customers who immediately try to get the bets on at Betfair below the existing odds which then due to automated systems results in the price collapsing and the majority of punters being unable to get the advised odds. Will the Value Machine end up being a very efficient way (for the bookies!) of ironing out where the odds are incorrect, leaving people like me who need to bet after 10.30am in order to preserve accounts with slim pickings?

  • major

    Reply Reply September 28, 2016

    Shame guys ,i was becoming really intrigued, until checking your proofing figures.
    Thanking you for your honesty and the best of luck to you and your subscribers.
    Major..

    • support

      Reply Reply September 28, 2016

      Hi Major

      Thanks for your comment – though I’m a little confused!

      best,

      Kieran

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